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Post by CATWOMAN on Dec 20, 2014 13:32:22 GMT 10
Ah the memories, that thing about suballiances in the DCV tribe was so fun. I wonder exactly who didn't have one? If I remember correctly I was involved in 5 different conversations on an hourly basis ) And since we're talking about that, what was the deal with CATWOMAN and Harley? I always suspected you two had something going on because you were so confidend even though I never knew of any suballiance that you were part of Anyway I'm glad I'm no jury because for me it's very close and I wouldn't know who to pick. Overall Poison Ivy did seem to have better game but she lost her cool on two occasions and that hurt her at the moment. But I gotta say that what they did there to align with each other when they were supposed to me arch enemies was great. Credit to them both for doing that. I think that is the edge they actually had on Superwoman in terms of strategic value and why they actually deserve the final more than she does. I wasn't super attached to Harley, I just saw the value in keeping her over randoms I couldn't connect with. That was my real problem with you and Two-Face constantly pushing to keep in the arena winners, because none of them could talk for shit whereas Harley could at least keep up a conversation. Of course Harley thought she was in a foursome with the other ladies, but we were just keeping her as a pocket vote and I think all of us put more stock in our five alliance. Within that alliance I had a threesome with Ivy and Superwoman and felt very close to both of them which is why I probably seemed a bit cocky at times. But that all said I fully intended to vote out Harley next if the tribes hadn't switched up. I've only had time to read bits and pieces but it feels like Ivy is kind of tanking this? It's a huge shame because I want one of my DC villain ladies to win it so badly. It was smart of Ivy and Two-Face to align, but where I really think Superwoman went wrong is letting Batman go. I just don't get her thought process there. If Ivy had won the final challenge she would have taken Two-Face, and Superwoman knew Ivy had talked about taking her out so I don't know why she would have felt hugely indebted to her. It's a great shame because as boring as it would be, Superwoman would kill it at FTC and sweep the votes.
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Post by WONDER WOMAN on Dec 20, 2014 14:36:44 GMT 10
Yeah keeping Batman alive was definitely the smarter move for Superwoman. Batman says he was going to F2 with two-face NOW, but at the time he seemed to be keen on handing the game to SW. It's unlikely he could have beaten two-face in that challenge, but it was a better shot than SW winning it.
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Post by CATWOMAN on Dec 20, 2014 18:12:00 GMT 10
I'm actually pretty happy to see Two-Face coming clean and admitting to how big a fail voting me out was. I just wish he'd realised the mistake at the time. The mistake I told him he was making if he was thinking of voting for me. He's much better-spoken than Ivy all round, really. She's not really coming across well even though she's got some strong points to argue.
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Post by THE JOKER on Dec 20, 2014 18:50:58 GMT 10
I wasn't super attached to Harley, I just saw the value in keeping her over randoms I couldn't connect with. That was my real problem with you and Two-Face constantly pushing to keep in the arena winners, because none of them could talk for shit whereas Harley could at least keep up a conversation. Of course Harley thought she was in a foursome with the other ladies, but we were just keeping her as a pocket vote and I think all of us put more stock in our five alliance. Within that alliance I had a threesome with Ivy and Superwoman and felt very close to both of them which is why I probably seemed a bit cocky at times. But that all said I fully intended to vote out Harley next if the tribes hadn't switched up. See there is one thing that keeps popping up every now and then. I keep getting the blame for making a move against you girls but at the same time each of you admits to wanting to have other options. Superwoman and Ivy will always say that they were loyal to me and I broke their trust but at the same time they admit that they liked the idea of having other options with you and Harley. You say you were loyal to that DC5 but you liked having Harley in your pocket andy maybe picking her over me ar Two Face. Ivy also mentioned that you wanted to have the options for a girl alliance back at Kapow and that's why you wanted Morbius out. The way I see it, even to this day I have no guarantee that you wouldn't have wanted to cut me loose later on. Sure, my move was an idiotic one because it came at the wrong moment. But let's say we did vote out Morbious and then either one of Starfire or Scarlet Witch. Can you honestly say it wouldn't have been me and Two Face either way after that?
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Post by CATWOMAN on Dec 20, 2014 19:29:59 GMT 10
Of course I was thinking through my options, and honestly I liked Starfire a lot more than either you or Two-Face by about her second PM to me so it's pretty likely that I would have been looking to vote out one of you two after taking care of Morbius and Scarlet Bitch. But you also had the opportunity to work it with them in the meantime and might have ended up winning out over me and Ivy. Although I doubt that. The point is, you took the possibility that one of you or Two-Face might have faced the vote a few round later (Two-Face would have been our first target of the two of you, btw) and made it a certainty that you'd both enter the arena after me and Ivy left. It's a risk that ended up okay for Two-Face because he has the challenge skills to rebound from his failure, but I liked you quite a lot on DCV and thought you were smarter than that.
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Post by THE JOKER on Dec 20, 2014 19:37:30 GMT 10
One thing I remember posting in some conversation back then was that Two Face was my free get out of jail card. Everyone I knew would have voted him before me but in a game with 32 players that's not so much. What's done is done but for the record I think my mistake was not voting you and Ivy, it was not thinking one step ahead. TBH it doesn't make such a big difference if me and Two Face got our asses voted by Morbius, Starfire and Scarlet or by you, Ivy and Scarlet/Starfire. The main difference is that it gives Ivy an opportunity to keep saying how she was 100% loyal to us )
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Post by ROGUE on Dec 20, 2014 19:55:22 GMT 10
I like Two-Face's answers the best. Good luck to the both of them.
I'm excited to find out who the marvel peeps were and everyone else! Bring on tomoz
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Post by SUPERMAN on Dec 20, 2014 21:01:45 GMT 10
Think Two-Face might win
Superwoman may have slaughtered either of them if she made it.
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Post by WONDER WOMAN on Dec 20, 2014 21:38:39 GMT 10
So happy right now. My next mission: work on replacing Two-Face with Starfire in my alliance, because I already like her more than him.
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Post by WONDER WOMAN on Dec 20, 2014 21:39:05 GMT 10
You seriously had no allegiance to him. You did have a little to Joker though.
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Post by BEAST on Dec 20, 2014 21:41:58 GMT 10
I have been quietly contemplating this outcome and apologise for not asserting my opinion more vocally during the past few weeks but my exit from the game signalled the commencement of a period of quiet introspection for myself. If I were adjudicating this debate between Two-Face and Ivy I believe Dent would ahead by a considerable margin by this point. He has also managed the tricky task of answering in a personable manner without appearing patronising or too eager to please.
A most convincing performance indeed. It is good to see Superwoman getting some kudos for her strengths but I do recall her being a somewhat transparent character in my dealings with her as she seemed far too genial at all times which made it clear right away she was plotting against Madrox and myself. But, we were of limited options on Thok and I did enjoy my time as a Marvel Hero, although those first two boot decisions still haunt me to this day.
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Post by CATWOMAN on Dec 20, 2014 22:17:13 GMT 10
You seriously had no allegiance to him. You did have a little to Joker though. Did I say there that I planned on replacing Two-Face immediately? No. I did have an allegiance to Two-Face, which should be pretty obvious by the fact that I shifted the girls' vote from him onto Morbius, to my own detriment because if I'd just gone with booting Two-Face Scarlet might have taken my side instead. I didn't have only 'a little' of an allegiance to Joker, I had been through an entire week of being aligned with him and voting with him. I certainly know more about my own allegiances than you do, given that I can't ever be fucked writing confessionals any more.
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Post by WONDER WOMAN on Dec 20, 2014 22:23:25 GMT 10
You seriously had no allegiance to him. You did have a little to Joker though. Did I say there that I planned on replacing Two-Face immediately? No. I did have an allegiance to Two-Face, which should be pretty obvious by the fact that I shifted the girls' vote from him onto Morbius, to my own detriment because if I'd just gone with booting Two-Face Scarlet might have taken my side instead. I didn't have only 'a little' of an allegiance to Joker, I had been through an entire week of being aligned with him and voting with him. I certainly know more about my own allegiances than you do, given that I can't ever be fucked writing confessionals any more. Just pullin' ya leg love. You actually did write pretty good confessionals. In a non-live game, they're traditionally played by people who are working and busy in real life so I don't expect heaps of confessionals. So I thought yours were pretty good. Some great ones to read after the game are: Superwoman - obv Two Face - his are in schtick 100% Arkillo - lol He melted down every episode There's a lot more that made me laugh. Tigra's were good and let me in on a lot of tribe knowledge. I'm sure there's more.
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Post by BEAST on Dec 20, 2014 22:30:23 GMT 10
I must say, it takes a special kind of gumption from an individual to commend themselves on their social game after having broken the trust of every single person in the game at the same time by publicly posting screen caps of private messages. For my mind, this is the very antithesis of a good social player and I find it remarkable that Ivy has not taken full accountability for this. If I were on the jury this incident would form the basis of my inquiry to Ivy as I would be seeking a far stronger argument from her in order to comprehend this contradictory frame of mind.
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Post by MYSTIQUE on Dec 20, 2014 23:02:27 GMT 10
YUS @ Superwoman actually getting them to answer some legitimate questions. Poison Ivy rocked that one at least. Idk I think because I never interacted with Two-Face in the game, I haven't adjusted to his shtick and he still weirds me out as a result.
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